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E-TEC Concerns

Question:

Dear Motorhead:

I’m thinking about buying a Ski-Doo 600 E-TEC Renegade Adrenaline and was wondering how reliable these engines are.

As you’ve tested a lot of these I’m wondering if they would make it to 10,000 miles.

How good is the 600 RUSH Pro R and which of the two would be the better buy?

Thanks,

Joe

Reply:

Thanks for your email!

There are E-TEC 600’s running around with big miles on them right now. I would suggest any snowmobile engine with 10,000 miles on it – 4-stroke or 2-stroke – will require “freshening”.

I’ve heard of both 2 and 4-stroke motors clearing the 10,000 mile mark however, my feeling is this – the rest of the sled will need a complete going over – re-bearing, all mechanical bits refreshed and then the drive-line clutches, chaincase etc.

The engine at this point might be running however, a normal life cycle of a snowmobile – in my opinion – from a mileage perspective – not a time perspective – is about 12,000 miles or around 20,000 klicks. That’s not to say you can’t go further, but at what cost versus trading in the unit and buying a new one?

The math of rebuilding or literally riding a sled to the 10,000 mile mark doesn’t square when you can deal the sled at the 5-6 thousand mile mark and invest less than riding it all the way to the level 10 and then paying to rebuild the entire sled.

I know, you only asked if an E-TEC will clear 10 thousand miles. Yes, I believe with proper maintenance it will.

Should you buy a Renny 137 E-TEC? If you have a good dealer then the sled will impress. Should you buy a new Rush? Yes, if you have a good dealer the sled will impress.

I can’t make this decision for you – you need to research and RIDE both to determine which is right for you. Again, the dealer can make all the difference.

Good Luck!

Motorhead Mark

Factory Spec Heavy-Duty Shop Dolly

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Factory Spec introduces its new Heavy-Duty Shop Dolly, a truly smart addition to any shop or garage.

Designed for easier sled maneuvering, this dolly features an innovative anti-slip pad system and strong grip that will not scratch or damage any surface.

Will adjust to fit machines 33” to 48” wide.

US residents call 1-800-970-2309 and in Canada call 1-800-970-3502 or visit denniskirk.com

GET YOUR COPY OF SUPERTRAX HERE FIRST

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LATEST ISSUE OF SUPERTRAX NOW AVAILABLE ON ZINIO

Volume 22, Number 2 of SUPERTRAX INTERNATIONAL is now available for download from ZINIO’s newsstand.

ZINIO allows its users to shop for, search for, read and store digital editions of magazines and books. By accessing a user account, magazines can be purchased and downloaded directly to the user’s computer or device and, since the release of the iPad, magazines can now be viewed wherever and whenever you can access your files.

This issue of SUPERTRAX features a 150 horsepower shootout between the 800 RUSH CFI, MX-Z 800 E-TEC, EXUP Apex and Arctic’s F8.

Also check out our top picks this season for places that always deliver great snow and good times. This issue also features the annual vintage show calendar, plus we give you a history lesson on 30 years of Polaris!

ZINIO subscribers to SUPERTRAX will gain EXCLUSIVE access to a FIFTH issue of SUPERTRAX available in March and only available from ZINIO. This issue will give readers a first hand look at all the latest sleds and technology for 2012 supported by opinions from the most experienced team in the industry. The only way to get it is to subscribe on ZINIO or from ZINIO’s digital newsstand.

SUPERTRAX is also available in its traditional print format by subscription and on newsstands across Canada and the United States.

Visit SUPERTRAXMAG.COM/ZINIO to subscribe to SUPERTRAX or click here to purchase your own single copy.

Snow Guarantee Promises Snow or Cash

Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs Launches Industry’s Only Weather Promise

Ontario snowmobiling gets a major boost this winter as the Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs (OFSC) offers snowmobilers the ultimate weather promise: a Snow Guarantee.

Riders who buy a 2011 Seasonal Snowmobile Trail Permit on or before December 15, 2010 can get paid cash if it doesn’t snow this winter.

The new OFSC Snow Guarantee pays out $200 to each participating rider if it snows a total of 31 centimetres or less between December 25, 2010 and March 15, 2011 as measured at the Environment Canada station at Shanty Bay Airport near Barrie, Ontario.

OFSC 2011 permit members can purchase the OFSC Snow Guarantee online at www.snowguarantee.ca for $10 (tax included) on or before December 15, 2010.

“The OFSC wanted to show our customers we are listening, so rather than waiting until January to see if it snows before buying their permits, they now have the best of both worlds,” commented Josh Grills, OFSC marketing manager. “They can save $50 on an early Seasonal Permit by purchasing on or before December 1s or pay the full fee of $250 until the 15th, and in either case eliminate the risk of investing before winter arrives by also obtaining their Snow Guarantee.”

The idea for offering a Snow Guarantee originated at the OFSC more than a year ago as an incentive to motivate the early permit sales that provide local clubs with most of their start-up and operational revenues. The OFSC Snow Guarantee is patterned after similar weather warranty promotions offered recently by iTravel 2000 and Direct Energy and is a first for international snowmobiling.

Typically, even in a lower snow season like last winter, the OFSC has trails open for snowmobiling in many areas of Ontario. It is a rare occurrence if the province gets totally skunked for snow. But anything can happen, and now snowmobilers can buy early, confident that the OFSC stands behind its product.

The Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs is non-profit organization dedicated to providing strong leadership and support to member clubs and volunteers, to establishing and maintaining quality snowmobile trails which are used in a safe and environmentally responsible manner, and to furthering the enjoyment of organized snowmobiling.

Visit www.snowguarantee.ca for more information about the program.

Polaris 800 RUSH PRO-R Dominates Grass Drags

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Already renowned for its Terrain Domination, the 800 RUSH PRO-R showed its straight line speed on Friday by winning titles in four amateur classes – including a 1000cc class – at the New Hampshire Snowmobile Assn. (NHSA) grass drags, an annual event attended by over 40,000 people.

Carl Cicchetto of Rochester Sports Center, a Polaris dealership in Barrington, N.H., took a 2011 800 RUSH PRO-R to the race track and beat all comers in the amateur Stock 800cc, Stock 800s (single pipe), Super Stock Twin 800cc and Stock 1000cc classes.

The 800 RUSH PRO-R not only beat its Stock 800 counterparts, it beat 800cc sleds with Improved Stock mods, and beat stock sleds with displacement advantages of 200cc. The powerful 800 RUSH PRO-R was the talk of the event.

“I have been racing/wrenching snowmobiles for years and this Pro-Ride suspension really did shine when the racing surface got worse as the night went on. The ease of adjustability was a big help in making the PRO R run 600ft consistently and the way this chassis responded to my body-english made it even easier to drive. The throttle response on the 800 motor was very quick, helping me with my reaction times,” said Cicchetto after the races.

The racing was held at the Brookvale Farm in Fremont, N.H., during the NHSA Grass Drags and Water Crossing weekend.

The 800 RUSH is built on the Polaris-exclusive PRO-RIDE Chassis, which features a truly progressive-rate rear suspension that virtually eliminates “spine tinglers.” The chassis is 300% more rigid for more precise handling, and its Rider Active Control provides the best weight transfer for the most intuitive, most responsive handling on any trail or terrain.

As demonstrated on the New Hampshire drag strip, the 800 Cleanfire engine delivers superior acceleration and outstanding top-end power. Cleanfire injection automatically compensates for changes in temperature and altitude, ensuring easy starts and optimal performance in all conditions.

Information about the complete 2011 lineup of Polaris snowmobiles, and a Polaris dealer locator, are available at www.terraindomination.com.

Brake Issues On My Sled

Question:

Dear Motorhead,

I have a 2000 Grand Touring 800 that I’ve kept in mint condition since I bought it. I’ve replaced the brake pads myself and bled the lines like the repair manual called for.

Now when I initially press the brake there’s pressure, thereafter I have to continually press the brake to build up pressure to even get the brake working.

As you will agree this is not safe and require your expertise to solve this issue.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Guy

Reply:

Thanks for your email!

Here’s the deal with bleeding brakes – it is a very time consuming, finicky job and if you haven’t done it before it is not as easy as it seems – and you are proving the point with your results.

You absolutely must be deliberate in:

1) Maintaining the reservoirs level at all times when bleeding or you’ll just suck in more air. An extra set of hands here makes all the difference.

2)The regimen you establish must be strict and not deviated from one tiny bit or it all goes sideways. Pump the lever until you feel a little something then HOLD IT IN – DO NOT RELEASE while turning the bleeder valve open and then re-tightening the bleeder valve without releasing the lever – if you release the lever you must absolutely start over again!

3) Each time you get a little more “feel” or brake you must give it all back by letting the lever go fully against the handlebar when you release the bleeder valve. DO NOT LET THE LEVER OUT WITH THE BLEEDER OPEN!!

4) You’ll probably need to go through about two reservoirs full of fluid for a good, solid bleed. Again, do not let the reservoir get lower than half full or it will suck air and you get to start all over again.

That’s how you do it and you’ve got to do it again to get your brakes back. What you’ve described is classic air-in-the-lines lever feel.

You can do it!

Motorhead Mark

HMK Team Lace Boots

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HMK introduces the Team Lace boot, technologically designed to keep you safe, warm and dry in temperatures as low as -40.

The Team Lace boot’s exterior features full grain leather upper and overall function flex for comfort and increased stability.

The boot’s interior includes moldable, flexible and durable boot liners constructed of 100% Ultralon EVA Foam.

For more info contact 1-800-970-2309 (US) or 1-800-970-3502 (Canada) or visit www.denniskirk.com

LONG LIVE 2-STROKE TECHNOLOGY

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Now that Ski-Doo has done the deed and introduced the 800 E-TEC, we wonder if this clean 2-stroke technology now available on Evinrude outboard engines as small as 15 HP, will spread further into the company’s model line.

Detractors claim the 2-stroke engine, even when DI inducted, may have a limited shelf life with ramped-up EPA intolerance under the current US Federal Government’s ultra-green administration.

Snowmobiling’s contribution to worldwide exhaust emissions has never been lower than it is right now. Ten years ago there was no such thing as a clean snowmobile engine and now every OEM is manufacturing vastly cleaner engines across all product lines.

A decade ago former Supertrax Associate Publisher, the late CJ Ramstad, calculated snowmobile exhaust emissions at less than one half of one percent of total global exhaust emissions.

Today that number would be dramatically smaller. Long live the clean 2-stroke!

Sport Performance Flared Windshields

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Check out this windshield set-up available for your REV-XP and REV-XP Fan.

The o-piece unit with integrated side deflectors is available in a 17.5-inch or 14-inch heights depending on how much protection you’re looking for and features a smoke tint.

It is designed to maximize wind protection for when you have the throttle pinned across a lake and the mercury has dipped well below T-shirt weather. It also redirect snow in deep powder conditions.

The unit comes complete with a base mounting kit. Pricing is as follows:

17.5″ (44.5 cm) – $129.99 USD and $159.99 CAD
14″ (35.6 cm) – $119.99 USD and $149.99 CAD

Visit store.ski-doo.com

My 600 Pro R Retro

Question:

Dear Motorhead:

You guys are doing a great job. My friend and I both ordered the 600 Pro R Retro, and I was wondering if V-Force would be worth it.

Cheers,

JD

Reply:

Thanks for your email!

The Pro-R 600 has a great running Clean-Fire injected mill. Will V-Force improve the engine? I have had no input from other readers about the use of them on this engine.

V-Force reeds have been a reliable and consistent performing power enhancer for many years. I would expect they would provide – at the very least – an improvement in bottom end power and throttle response.

Hope this helps,

Mark